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THE MEASURE.
What makes our communities stronger? How do we accelerate change? Throughout the social sector and at Equal Measure, we’ve seen a sharper focus on racial equity―one that intersects deeply with place-based systems change. Join us for conversations with leaders and practitioners to inform and inspire our collective work toward a more resilient, equitable society.
Episodes
Season 2 | Episode 3
adrienne maree brown, author and activist
“You think of a butterfly flapping its wings, or you think of a bird, a sparrow flapping its wings, it’s one individual action, but when it’s done in community, it can all of a sudden become something quite complex and beautiful.” Listen to the episode
Season 2 | Episode 2
Dr. Lisa Fitzpatrick, founder and CEO, Grapevine Health
“But the truth is, it’s our responsibility in the healthcare system to make sure people have access to information they can use and that they’ll understand, so this is really the fault of the healthcare system.” Listen to the episode
Season 2 | Episode 1
Chantel Rush Tebbe, Managing Director of the American Cities Program, Kresge Foundation
“One of the things we’ve seen is that projects can generate community momentum. They can create change, they can build a sense of sovereignty that, hey, we’re going to do something here and it’s going to make a difference.” Listen to the episode
Episode 6
Gerri Spilka, founding director and past president, Equal Measure
“It was this notion of organizational learning, which really came at the right time for us in that evaluation started hitting the ground. And I will say, organizational learning was critical, as was systems thinking.” Listen to the episode
Episode 5
Clarence Anthony, CEO and Executive Director, National League of Cities (NLC)
“Our nation and economy would not have come back if it wasn’t for mayors and councilmembers and city managers.” Listen to the episode
Episode 4
Chike Aguh, Former Chief Innovation Officer, U.S. Department of Labor
“In some ways, what’s most transformative is if you make available what’s been available to some folks available to everybody.” Listen to the episode
Episode 3
Erica Atwood, Senior Director, City of Philadelphia
“My vision for this was really in line with decolonization of grant making of funding, being able to put money where and with organizations I know really, truly love their communities.” Listen to the episode
Episode 2
Jara Dean-Coffey and Marcia Coné, Directors, Equitable Evaluation Initiative
“The folks that were actually doing really deeply thoughtful, heartful, contextualized, relevant evaluative work did not call it evaluation. Because how could it be evaluation if it felt right, if it was useful, if it was respectful, if it was relevant to the questions that I had answers to, if it was honest and embraced multiplicity?” Listen to the episode
Episode 1
Angela Glover Blackwell, Founder in Residence, PolicyLink
“Transformative solidarity has us owning the issues that sometimes seem like the issue of the other, because we deeply understand that their issues are our issues.” Listen to the episode
Host
Leon T. Andrews, Jr., President and CEO, Equal Measure
Leon has more than 25 years of policy, management, and leadership experience. He guides Equal Measure’s vision and commitment to racial equity and intersectionality. Leon most recently served as the inaugural leader of the National League of Cities’ Race, Equity, And Leadership (REAL). As the founder of REAL, Leon led NLC’s strategy to help its members respond to racial tensions in their communities and address the historical, institutional, and systemic barriers that further inequity and racism in our nation’s cities.
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